Cioch Glamaig In Use

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These things work, really, really well.

They are waterproof. They are comfortable across an astonishing temperature range, meaning you don’t carry them in your pack very often so the fact they are heavier than eVent doesn’t matter. We’ve been wearing them the whole winter, since just after I first mentioned them.

To give you some idea, LB and I started a day just after dawn, clear and bright and -2.5C/27.5F with wind chill taking it to -12C/10.5F (according to the Kestrel). It rained, it snowed. We sat and had lunch for half an hour, we sat for ten minutes and grinned as we disappeared under a blanket of wet snow.

So? Well, all through that, neither of us changed clothing. At all. We didn’t take an item off or put one on.

All the rest of what I’ll say is detail that might answer some questions. The main questions; Does it work? Is it comfortable? Is it worth the money? Does it, in short, perform better than eVent/Gore in the Winter? have been answered to my satisfaction. This is very impressive kit.

The hoods are excellent. The brim-stiffeners might look a bit large but they’ve kept a great deal of high-speed snow away from our faces in the last season. Our hoods are actually from the Harta which is the winter-cut and winter-weight equivalent of the Glamaig. We had ours made larger to take a boarding/skiing helmet which worked well. There’s a small flap of material to allow the hood to be rolled up. It’s not very large, and with hoods this big, I think it’s worth having it to stop them flopping about when we aren’t wearing them.

The weights look heavy at first but when you realise that you never really expect to carry them it makes much more sense. They form part of your insulation rather than just being a waterproof shell. We didn’t have to carry them (as opposed to wearing them) from December up until mid May. The temperature comfort range is just so broad.

Mine weighs in at 696gms (slim waist but fairly broad shouldered and about 6’2″/186cm) and LB’s is 594gms (slim, long back for her height and 5’6″/167cms tall). Bear in mind that, leaving aside the fact we had them made large to accommodate winter layers, there is no excess material here. They’re made to measure after all.

Some of that could be saved by not fully lining the sleeves (I hear it works fine), using normal hoods and not having the map pocket. I might go for unlined forearms if I were to buy them again but the hoods and map pocket would stay.

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Well, not a great deal.

The cords that adjust the opening on the hood can flick at your face in a very high wind (40+mph / 65+kph) but I reckon the ends of them could be sewn on to the hood to prevent that (I must mention that to Neil at Cioch).

The map pocket that I was originally unsure of is something that I have found myself using again and again for maps. It’s handy for putting a RFID ski pass in allowing you to glide through the barriers. Would I have one again? Yes.

The hand pockets are the one thing I don’t like. They’re too low and are restricted by the rucksack waist belt. But that’s not at all uncommon in a jacket.

One thing to note when ordering – the arm length on the site says “B: Measure from top of collar bone to…”. That’s effectively wrong – it needs to be from the base of the neck. See B in the diagram (which is accurate) and tell Neil that’s where you’ve taken the measurement. All the other measurement instructions seem spot on.

Overall, I expect to be wearing Parameta based waterproofs in the winter from now on. I would look at Paramo since some of their new range looks good, but more than likely return to Cioch for the excellent custom fit and option to specify exactly what you want.

9 Replies to “Cioch Glamaig In Use”

  1. Hey RY – this is very interesting, I’ve been looking round for something like this. It seems like a very reasonable price for the Perfect Fit custom order especially. I’m a sucker for anything that I can have tailored exactly how I like it.

    My set-up this winter has been parred down to a poly T-shirt, a 250g down Montbell jacket and a superlight Arc’teryx shell, then just thermal leggings with the the same Arc’teryx shell bottoms. Mixing them around, I’ve been toasty down to -15c, dry in the rain and snow, and cool in the sun.

    The thing I don’t like about the system is that there are no pockets! So maybe the Glamaig and a lighter mid-layer might be the answer… The Paramo gear looks interesting too, is there something you’d recommend there?

  2. Hi Chris :)

    That is a light setup you’re using! I’d have expected to need something extra on my top half for -15 but I suppose if you keep moving… :)

    The Paramo Aspira jacket I was shown by a Paramo bod at the OS Outdoors Show looked very well thought out. Maybe a little too many bells and whistles.

    They say “Average weight 841g” which I take to be medium. I’m not sure what one would weigh in my size, but I’d hazard a guess that it would be approaching a kilo. I.e. nearly 30% more than my Glamaig. Although I don’t expect to carry it, I’d prefer it to be as light as possible in case I do.

    Pockets – hey! Why did I always wonder whether the map pocket was worth it when I could have lost one of the side pockets? They’re handy, but as I said, awkward under the waist-belt.

    The Cascada trousers are marvellous. They’ve joined snow and log fires in my list of things to look forward to in Winter. No faf, great venting. But the cut is generic, and a little MC Hammer. I’d go for the Cioch trousers without hesitation next time. People compare mine and LB’s and hers are noticeably “tailored”.

    (You can tell I had difficulty keeping the post down to this length eh?)

  3. MC Hammer styling, eh? You say it like it’s a bad thing ;-)

    Thanks for the pointers, I’ll enjoy going through it in preparation for next winter (I’m determined to start early this year, and not leave it till the last minute like usual..).

    One of the things about Japan is that the air in the winter is really dry, so even at seriously sub-zero temperatures you can get away with a lighter setup and be quite comfortable. I definitely wouldn’t contemplate my current gear in the bone-chilling damp of the U.K…!

  4. RY.
    Very impressed with your postings on the glamaig, nice to see that they perform well in the winter. i got mine about 2 months ago and i am looking forward to seeing how good it performs in the harsh winter, in place of my cascada.
    i got the fully lined sleeve version aswell, and i think because it will be used in winter, better to have and not need, than to need and not have. The extra weight to me isnt a problem and would also add to the insulation in the winter, im definately glad i got them added.
    As for the pockets again i think its better to have and not need….

  5. They are nice jackets eh? :)

    I know what you mean re. the pockets. It’s just the weight that makes me say daft things like I could do without them!

    Where is the harsh winter that you’re testing it in? I think it will perform as well as the Cascada personally.

    The jackets are so nice in fact… that I’ve come up with a Cunning Plan for the summer. Watch this blog…

  6. Hi there

    firstly i would like to say what a great review.

    are you still using your glamiag jacket? how is it holding up to the winter weather?

    i am thinking about purchasing one soon thus i am trying to find out as much as possible before i sit down and decide on the features i want.

    if you were to buy another what features would be a must have?

    what features could you do without?

  7. Glad you liked the review Jack.

    We’ve used the Glamaigs for two winters now – they’re still great!

    But… although they are very good, and I wouldn’t change them from what’s described above, I would be seriously considering the lightweight Paramo smock (can’t recall the name!) now that it’s gone into full production.

    Sorry to confuse you further!

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